alex fyve on art
- alex's 1st message
- alex's 2nd message
- I've put it on my extensive reading list!
- <3
- p.s. i don't believe in lists. i'm always surprised when people make lists _and_ actually get through them. but, it does work for some. anyway, if it drops out of mind, don't worry ;)
- "When you discover a pattern." Any pattern? A pattern in your own thinking? A pattern in a friend's thinking? A pattern across multiple friends' thinking?
- hmm. in general. in everything. once i can solve something heuristically, it feels a bit 'dead'
- Curious about "getting better at": what motivates you to want to reduce this reacting to this?
- in the case of something i'm making, i think i used to try to add nuance. think of designing a game and finding an always-win strategy. that's an obvious signal to design a countering force, this makes the dynamic more 'alive' again
- in the case of something i'm seeking to understand, i look for more nuance that is already there. something i'm missing. if there's nothing more there, then i sort of ready myself to mourn its passing. there's nothing else to dig into. our relationship is done.
- specifically i believe i was talking about "getting better at not being too reactive to fitting in"; there are situations where it might be beneficial, healthy, or comfortable to fit in... i don't want to be blind to those situations when they arise.
- _however_, now that i am "kill gameplay" droqen, i regard this impulse as clearly artificial-life-making... i resist it to some degree.
- or even a lot.
- suppose it's a person... i mean, look at our conversation here. it's only going on because there is more to discover in the crevices. once i understand the full parameters of what we're talking about, the conversation is over, it's dead.
right?
- Interesting! What's the definition of 'pure entertainment'? I feel similarly, but it's a bit tautological for me i.e. it's pure entertainment if it's a waste of time (and some other reasons that exclude it from being exploitative etc)
- I'm very fond of brutalist architecture - and I recognise that's an aesthetic preference (put brutalist architecture in any context in any visual medium and chances are I'll have a good time)
- oh, now, see this is a line of thinking of mine that i can get behind! maybe farmville can come back after all. by pure entertainment i mean something that has no value except to pass the time in a manner that is not unpleasant.
- I'm not sure exactly, it's a bit complicated and I haven't thought about it much
- i am strongly drawn to pixel art, and sketchy line art. and these are the kinds of art that i like to do, as well... i wonder how related this is. it feels correct to me to be most drawn to an art form i am familiar with doing.
- so i guess by this definition i mean a thing that _literally wastes time._ it has no value except that you don't want to be right now, you want to be a few hours from now.
- <3
- because it means i have a stronger more deep relationship to it; i am not drawn (only) to the surface of the art, how it presents, but to the deeper part of the pond, how it feels to participate...
alex fyve on art
- alex's 1st message
- alex's 2nd message
- I've put it on my extensive reading list!
- <3
- p.s. i don't believe in lists. i'm always surprised when people make lists _and_ actually get through them. but, it does work for some. anyway, if it drops out of mind, don't worry ;)
- "When you discover a pattern." Any pattern? A pattern in your own thinking? A pattern in a friend's thinking? A pattern across multiple friends' thinking?
- hmm. in general. in everything. once i can solve something heuristically, it feels a bit 'dead'
- Curious about "getting better at": what motivates you to want to reduce this reacting to this?
- in the case of something i'm making, i think i used to try to add nuance. think of designing a game and finding an always-win strategy. that's an obvious signal to design a countering force, this makes the dynamic more 'alive' again
- in the case of something i'm seeking to understand, i look for more nuance that is already there. something i'm missing. if there's nothing more there, then i sort of ready myself to mourn its passing. there's nothing else to dig into. our relationship is done.
- specifically i believe i was talking about "getting better at not being too reactive to fitting in"; there are situations where it might be beneficial, healthy, or comfortable to fit in... i don't want to be blind to those situations when they arise.
- _however_, now that i am "kill gameplay" droqen, i regard this impulse as clearly artificial-life-making... i resist it to some degree.
- or even a lot.
- suppose it's a person... i mean, look at our conversation here. it's only going on because there is more to discover in the crevices. once i understand the full parameters of what we're talking about, the conversation is over, it's dead.
right?
- Interesting! What's the definition of 'pure entertainment'? I feel similarly, but it's a bit tautological for me i.e. it's pure entertainment if it's a waste of time (and some other reasons that exclude it from being exploitative etc)
- I'm very fond of brutalist architecture - and I recognise that's an aesthetic preference (put brutalist architecture in any context in any visual medium and chances are I'll have a good time)
- oh, now, see this is a line of thinking of mine that i can get behind! maybe farmville can come back after all. by pure entertainment i mean something that has no value except to pass the time in a manner that is not unpleasant.
- I'm not sure exactly, it's a bit complicated and I haven't thought about it much
- i am strongly drawn to pixel art, and sketchy line art. and these are the kinds of art that i like to do, as well... i wonder how related this is. it feels correct to me to be most drawn to an art form i am familiar with doing.
- so i guess by this definition i mean a thing that _literally wastes time._ it has no value except that you don't want to be right now, you want to be a few hours from now.
- <3
- because it means i have a stronger more deep relationship to it; i am not drawn (only) to the surface of the art, how it presents, but to the deeper part of the pond, how it feels to participate...