In Bulletin 11, I asked readers a couple of questions to figure out how to grow the audience for Kinopio

Since then I’ve gotten so many helpful responses

How did you find Kinopio?

👀 https://club.kinopio.club/t/ideas-of-places-to-promote-kinopio/354/2

Keep productive youtube channel

producthunt

twitter, through obsidian

hackernews

indie web site (eg elliot’s stuff)

If you’ve ever tried to describe it to someone else, what words did you use?

+1, took a while to stick

by being invited to a space

“a really sick way to map out and connect your thoughts VISUALLY”

Post-its and crayons on the web

May 31, 2020 waxy link had a link to it, in which he described Kinopio as: “like if Are.na and a modular synth had a baby”

Who is Kinopio good for?

“a “Mapping tool” for my thoughts”

Good for Planning with my family

Good making a dot collector like ray Dalio’s principals describes

artsy people, designers

frictionless note-taking

easy to get your thoughts out and organize them, making connections

Product Managers

multi-dimensional notes

def students. as a student, I use it regularly for taking lecture notes and writing papers

small teams, sketches

Who is it not good for?

“my peers might appreciate something like this because it is both functional AND fun”

https://club.kinopio.club/t/gamification-features-to-keep-user-intact/479

“people looking to try something new”

“my product management colleagues at work. Their world view is - sadly - restricted to Microsoft tools. I managed to get Miro into the mix and some of them love it. The few times I used Kinopio on them they frowned upon its playfulness (which I love)”

“good for artists, designers who need to create mood boards”

not sure I would use for lecture notes but jotting thoughts, mapping ideas etc. - awesome

“quick collaborative brainstorming ”

How should I promote Kinopio?

“Not good for software architects looking to create UML graphs ”

although, not sure if i agree if this is even the right attitude to have. maybe it’s time to change this.

arduous to get approved by enterprise (security, privacy)

+1, $/referred-user

more sharable spaces

embeds

hosted private instances?

allow commenting/adding cards without signing up

user pages

work integrations (e.g. github sync)

evangelism programs/portal (eg notion)

how would this work? what data specifically would you like to sync? could you use an space rss feed for this?

“Have you tried to attract teachers as evangelists”

i like the idea of embedding from other tools to get to kinopio.

educators / classroom discount - the issue with subscriptions is UK Universities struggle - software annual renewal slightly different

notes: - notion was already really popular with 1000s of people before camille came on as head of marketing - from there she took it even farther (not exactly where I’m at currently)

I’m willing to moderate 👋🏻

“tiktok is a weird place BUT a ton of fun niche-y tools have gained a lot of traction from there.. sometimes people get featured outta nowhere and their projects blow up”

how are renewals different? the main teacher feedback I’ve gotten is the need to allow invited users to edit spaces without an account

she paved the cowpaths around ppls existing passions, with stuff like superuser programs and meetups which is awesome

ok lets do it, I’ll figure it out and send you some deets later today!

asked “how do we bring in the enthusiasts, get them closer to the company”

I imagine, given the fun, interactivity, and embedable media on Kinopio, you could create some exciting videos/gifs both illustrating the tool and different ideas/concepts in a social media friendly way. Even better if Kinopio could do that out of the box!

“explore spaces referencing current events, eg “how i’m going to beat floyd mayweather” board by logan paul.”

a more visually interesting Explore, more guided curation with a url I can point new users to

The only gif I could find lolz

+1 a landing page/dashboard of curated Explore spaces.

https://mmm.page/xh.inspiring

this sounds fun, feels a little like what the FL meetups have been like

have been a lurker for a while now but am now fully invested. i think what brought me over the edge was discovering that the 🕶 on the bottom left was a rabbit hole into other spaces - this crosses kinopio into tumblr-like territory for note taking which is a feature in and of itself.

Promote in creative websites + Discords. Create a list of places to promote and share away!

twitter promoted tweets, targeted to creative circles, and pkm/productivity circles

r/mindmapping

kickscondor and weiwei’s the outer web discord

Need feedback from people who Aren’t using it

Creative Brew Discord, Indie Hackers,

mmm.page discord

what made them drop off

I can’t upgrade because I don’t have a credit card and don’t have much money

Scared of the limit of 100

or turned them off

No option to draw (hand written notes)

Want to donate though

Demographic targetting

there’s a channel for random stuff where folks post unrelated-to-mmm but creative/fun/musical/memes

moodboard makers/scrapbookers

another product hunt v3?

You can try betalist maybe

https://www.instagram.com/goodstartgoodstart/

will check out thx